Mathematicians and enthusiasts are exploring complex permutations of multi-sided dice designed to guarantee completely tie-free and fair turn orders for any number of players. While commercial options already exist for smaller groups, discovering a mathematically perfect set of five 30-sided dice that remains fair for any subset of players remains a massive computational challenge. Discussions also highlight that simply using a single 120-sided die to determine all possible outcomes ironically just shifts the tie-breaking problem to deciding who gets to roll it.